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Co-op Showdown 2008

The Players: Chris, Joe

Basic Intel: There are three co-op modes in Call of Duty: World at War: co-op campaign, competetive co-op, and Nazi Zombies (a survival mode unlocked after beating the campaign.) Call of Duty: World at War is available on 360, PS3, PC and Wii. We played the 360 version prior to this discussion. It was developed by Treyarch for Activision.

Joe: With so much to choose from, where to begin? It’s like a Vegas buffet of friendship and goodwill.

 

Chris: Well, I think the competitive co-op completely overshadows anything else.

Joe: It’s oxymoronic: competitive co-op, and yet it works really well.

Chris: Yeah, the game can't continue if you let your opponent die, like one of those flimsy treaties you see in modern action films. The rewards of finishing the game are exactly the same, just with a point value and added bragging rights.

Joe: I found that often I'd get put into a match with some numb-nuts who'd charge on ahead, and he'd get his ass shot off and force us all back to the last checkpoint.

Chris: Definitely a different dynamic from campaign co-op, bigger risks and rewards supersede caution and survival.

Joe: Right, so you’re forced to try to run up there and save his ass,
so really everyone should be charging blindly forward all the time.


Above: Patching up an “ally” 

Chris: That's what I loved about it, you're not out to kill one another but there's still the ability to make your friend eat his balls as you get better. Once you've mastered that "technique" you've got the Death Cards for added challenge.

Joe: Did you ever find the “Jack of Balls” card?

Chris: It slows you down by burdening you with uranium infused testicles of pure patriotism.

Joe: Turning on any or all of the cards causes dramatic changes to the flow of the game, but you can only use them in private matches.

Chris: Absolutely, I saw people complain about their difficulty, but that's precisely what they're for. Playing through the straight campaign will eventually get old, so why not reanimate a Nazi, or flip on exploding headshots.

Joe: Or use them in silly combinations, like if you use the "shoot teammates for health" card with "fire rockets when you're down." I gotta say, though, the paintball cheat is lame.

Chris: Indeed, but no where near as lame as CoD4's "Super Contrast" cheat.

Joe: Yah, since when is a Photoshop filter a cheat? Survival mode is all the rage in co-op this fall so let’s talk Nazi Zombies, the survival mode where you and 3 teammates hole up in an abandoned house and fend off wave after wave of undead Hitler youth.


Above: If you’re lucky, the random weapon box will cough up a “Ray Gun” 

Chris: That's right, that's an amazing mode. In theory I wish it was bigger, or more than one "map" but every time I fire it up I can't pull away for hours. I wanna say Gears 2's Horde has the edge, given it takes place over different maps. But I always find myself playing Zombie mode way more.

Joe: There is a surprising amount of strategy even though it’s just a few rooms and two staircases.

Chris: There are actually parts of the house I'm afraid to unlock.

Joe: In later waves you can kill all but one zombie, then while one person leads it around the house, the others can repair barricades, rearm, etc at their leisure. When everyone's ready, do in the last dood and you’re set for the next wave. Also, I was thrilled when I discovered I could turn and look around while repairing.

Chris: And have you noticed those zombies are quiet as undead church mice? They'll just sneak in the house unawares, and before I know it my brain is in one's mouth. They do not adhere to the "Romero groan" but then, they come before hand in the time line don't they?

Joe: I know! Before I learned the "turn around while repairing" trick I'd suddenly find a zombie clawing up my back and chewing my neck. Not in the fun sexy way either.

Chris: You should try the reverse decaying cowgirl.

Joe: But it does reach a point, around wave 10, where a cloud of lung dust from a Nazi zombie's exhale will kill you. It gets seriously hard to stay alive!

Chris: Jesus, you've made it that far?!

Joe: Yah, I think around 14 was the highest I got before I had to move on to the other games for this feature. It somehow manages to stay fun despite the fact that there is no diversity in enemies. They just get faster and stronger. I’d have to say that Gears 2’s Horde is a better and more diverse mode than Nazi Zombies, HOWEVER I think Duty's overall co-op package is better.


Above: Friends don’t let friends get skewered on bayonets 

Chris: As do I. But I think Fenix is too heavy and clumsy to survive long in CoD's Zombie chateau.

Joe: Free-to-download Nazi Zombie maps would make CoD’s co-op offering complete. They don't have to be too elaborate, but a ‘lil sumthin sumthin…

Chris: That'd be great, and relatively simple. As long as it’s free you couldn't even get mad if it sucked!

Joe: I liked the vanilla campaign co-op as well. Some of those battles are absolutely frantic, and having 3 other meatbags to draw enemy fire made it go much smoother. Easier to get those achievements on the harder difficulties, dig me?

Chris: Yeah, to get through "Relentless" on the harder difficulties a buddy is usually required.

Joe: Any words in closing?

Chris: Co-op helped me rediscover the need for friends!

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64 comments

  • mrmorozov987 - July 8, 2010 7:37 p.m.

    Absolutely no one should be surprised about the winner. A fantastic game, and one of the few Xbox exclusives I really feel sad about not owning.
  • zeldafanjohn - December 11, 2008 2 a.m.

    NO ZOMBIE IS SAFE FROM CHICAGO TED
  • ryno - December 11, 2008 1:58 a.m.

    i agree the ps3 needs left 4 dead
  • barrage7667 - December 11, 2008 12:53 a.m.

    and good point shield doesnt recharge the spec ops need to give u ammo packs if u didnt figure that out be4 writing this you need to p[lay more...also i beat almost every single coop level with 3 people so as long as everyone knows their job all you need is 3 people having 8 people that somewhat know their jobs isnt nearly as good as having 3 people that know what they have to do...SOLDIERS-KILL AND PROTECT/SPECOPS-KILl AND GIVE AMMO TO SOLDIERS AND MEDICS/MEDICS-HEAL EVERYONE AND SUCK LIFE CAUSE YOU ALSO REVIVE FASTEST. simple enough rite?
  • barrage7667 - December 11, 2008 12:49 a.m.

    u kno its not tht hard to kill most enemies in Resistance and if u have a grenade and alot of enemies crunched together u will get a satisfying boom and bodies flying...but the leveling system needs to be changed and medics always get 4 times more xp then soldiers do unless the soldier kills every single thing in the level
  • flare149 - December 11, 2008 12:43 a.m.

    Wow really? Not at all? I couldn't beleive the Resistance 2 article. The shiled took forever to recharge? You know you need ammo to replenish it right? Also the classes were so easy to figure out... Personally I think it's R2, followed by Gears 2, then CoD WaW
  • Wolf007 - December 11, 2008 12:41 a.m.

    O.K., Gears of War 2's Horde is AWESOME!!!!!!!
  • Cwf2008 - December 11, 2008 12:32 a.m.

    third
  • Jimmyjammy - December 11, 2008 12:22 a.m.

    Left 4 Dead is truely amazing. Game of the year IMO.
  • Sebastian16 - December 10, 2008 11:51 p.m.

    It's articles like this that makes meh luv GamesRadar
  • Major_Wuss - December 11, 2008 12:36 a.m.

    I agree. lots of laughs and adventures to be had in Left 4 Dead. If only Fallout 3 was co-op...
  • Cwf2008 - December 11, 2008 12:34 a.m.

    dammit 4th i meant...and fifth. Left 4 Dead easily sucked i say Fable 2...despite ok co-op is the best game up there
  • RebornKusabi - December 10, 2008 11:48 p.m.

    Pretty cool article
  • LIZMASTER138 - January 28, 2009 5:14 a.m.

    call of duty world at war rocks
  • loopdel00p - December 27, 2008 12:17 a.m.

    its so good on hored
  • theschwartzb - December 14, 2008 4:03 p.m.

    As i watched the videos of the editors playing these games, i couldnt help but think, 'these guys arent as good at games as i thought they might be.' Yeah you might be new to a game, but if your job is to review all types of games (including playing said games)i would think your core skills would make you better at the games you play than these videos show me. Great article though.
  • SET_57 - December 14, 2008 3:54 a.m.

    ight i just had 2 say it seems like u guys didn't even play R2 i can ignore that u said the shield recharged but u also say theres no way to see if someone needs amo or healing now ether ur blind or dumb because if ur a spec ops u see an ammo sign over everyones head if they completely run out it turns in2 a X and if ur a medic u see a freaking health bar over everyone head i don't know how you missed that........ and then u guys started complaining that it was 2 hard n that it takes 4ever 2 lvl up idk but isn't that wut makes it fun 2 play games i like games that r actually hard games that i can play for more than a day but whatever usually i like the articles u guys write but this one seemed like a bunch of xbox/gears2 fanboys wrote it idk thats just my 2 cents
  • bron1417 - December 14, 2008 1:49 a.m.

    left 4 dead ftw
  • seshiro73 - December 13, 2008 9 p.m.

    I own a ps3 and all my friends own 360s (except for one or two). the point is that I am not a fanboy. I love halo more than any other game and I am getting a 360. the truth is that games radar can be biased at some times. I am crazed over the fact that left 4 dead won, but give resistance some slack. the leveling up system is designed to be dufficult so players can't be the best within a week. I suggest that G.R. looks over what they have written about r2 and gow2 , many of the problems in resistance seem to be ignored in gow2. its like your bipolar. thanks for reading my response
  • dum000 - December 13, 2008 8:12 p.m.

    awesome left 4 dead won wooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

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