The Force is overrated: FACT!

Which Wars?
Return of the Jedi

So Luke strides into Jabba’s crib decked out in his take-my-ass-seriously, all-black wardrobe.

“You will bring Captain Solo and the Wookiee to me”, he says.

“Your mind powers will not work on me boy”, says Jabba.

And that’s that. So how long did Luke spend learning and practicing those mind powers just for that? He might as well have skipped that class for all the use it was. If Luke’s a Jedi why doesn’t he just lift Jabba up with his powers and chuck him down the Rancor pit, before going to town on everyone else with his saber? Because he can’t, cos The Force is massively overrated, that’s why. Oh and that’s not even bringing up the fact that Luke Force pulls a blaster to use on Jabba – what’s that all about?

Judgment on The Force: Totally useless

Which Wars?
Attack of the Clones

So lets get this straight. Yoda goes up against Dooku and it’s a stalemate with Force powers. Now, all the way through the original trilogy and in The Phantom Menace Yoda is supposedly the don, but we’d never seen him in action proper. And when we do, well – big disappointment. If you refer to notorious Star Wars fan boy Supershadow (who’s legitimacy has been called into question by the web at large, but even so has a lot of insight on his site) then Yoda is the second most powerful Jedi ever and Dooku AKA Darth Tyranus is only the fifth most powerful Sith. Even accounting for the (semi-popular fan-boy) belief that Sith Lords are stronger, Yoda should have been able to carve him a new anus.

But no, it’s a stalemate with Dooku seemingly showing a better grasp of The Force by multi-tasking both saber fighting and Force pushing that lump pillar onto Obi-Wan. Yoda then seemingly has to use all his efforts to keep it from crushing the downed Jedi. Again, if Starkiller (the lead in The Force Unleashed) can down a Star Destroyer, surely Yoda could prevent Dooku’s ship flying off with his mind ‘n’ shit.

Judgment on The Force: Over-hyped

Just for the completists here are those Supershadow lists in full:

Most powerful Jedi

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda
3. Aenon Jurtis (Ancient Jedi Master)
4. Obi-Wan Kenobi
5. Kaja Sinis (The Very First Jedi and Founder of the Jedi Order)
6. Mace Windu
7. Ben Skywalker (Son of Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade)
8. Plo Koon
9. Anakin Skywalker
10. Ce Ce Denowai (Most Powerful Female Jedi of All Time)
11. Kyle Katarn
12. Ki Adi Mundi
13. Princess Leia Organa Solo
14. Mara Jade Skywalker
15. Kit Fisto
16. Qui-Gon Jinn
17. Shintor Beerus (Ancient Jedi Master)
18. Yendar Platis (Ancient six-armed Jedi Master)
19. Bontu Sitmus (Whill Jedi Master Who Taught Yoda)
20. Anakin Solo (Son of Han Solo and Princess Leia)

Most powerful Sith

1. Darth Sidious with Kyber Crystal
2. Darth Vader
3. Darth Bane
4. Darth Plagueis
5. Darth Tyranus
6. Darth Rage
7. Darth Maul
8. Darth Scarz
9. Darth Revan
10. Darth Imperius
11. Darth Ghore
12. Darth Vak
13. Darth Slane
14. Darth Vicrone
15. Darth Malak
16. Exar Kun
17. Darth Xio Jade (Best Female Sith of All Time)
18. Darth Seer
19. Darth Thrax
20. Darth Secretus


  • supersupportsupreme - January 12, 2014 3:33 p.m.

    This article here will help me shape my Star Wars story into something badass, also the Force Unleashed is ok but it ain't Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic...that game kicked ass.
  • Smeggs - September 16, 2008 12:54 a.m.

    LOL Nice. I got one, When Obi-Wan force pushes Greivous up into that balcony in the last video, would it really be that hard just to throw the path of his vehicle off a little bit so it falls off the walkway?
  • Black_X_1111 - November 3, 2008 2:41 a.m.

    Oh, and your forgetting that there is some strategy in what they do. Yoda takes his fine time to lift the column to make Count Dooku underestimate him. Ben goes emo cuz Luke shows up, and Ben can only truly help if he leaves his physical body.
  • Black_X_1111 - November 3, 2008 2:31 a.m.

    You see, it not force that over rated, but Jedi. Translation: the Jedi could blow up planets, but none of them are mentally strong enough. So you would need a super Jedi or God with Jedi powers to do it. Or an autistic person, as TV has shown us in the Eureka series, a Sci-Fi channel original.
  • Elbo444 - September 30, 2008 5:27 a.m.

    so true, and with all those giant vehicles and machines you'd think they could just use the force to cut some wires and break everything
  • frag - April 24, 2009 3:18 a.m.

    Everything could be 'rationalised' by saying that the force is not a tool that can be used at will. It is a presence. If a jedi can forcepush something, it is because the force is set at the moment to allow it. A jedi would feel he could forcemind, like he could(n't?) feel he can't forcewhatever. The force would be a matter of situation, not will to use it.
  • troys490 - April 23, 2009 10:16 p.m.

    Of course if the used The Force to do all that stuff the plot of the movies would be pretty boring, it would just be on big movie of explosions. (Maybe that would be better)
  • Baconator96 - April 27, 2009 3:21 a.m.

    Did anyone notice how, after Obi-Wan gives up an dies, he just sorta disintegrates into a pile of robes? WTF... ReCaptcha: to aguilar the lost city of gold?!
  • PhantomDave - April 25, 2009 4:23 a.m.

    LOL This was a great list. I'm a life long Star Wars geek but even I laugh at it sometimes. Although you lost serious points for quoting ANYthing from Supershadow....
  • LOUDcarBOMB - April 24, 2009 12:17 a.m.

    The beginning question was one of the questions that was asked on one of the pages.
  • LOUDcarBOMB - April 24, 2009 12:16 a.m.

    "Why when Obi-Wan is riding his Boga why does he get no sense of precognition that he’s about to be shot by the clones and their big gun?" Well... basically one fact that you didn't see is that the Sith used the Force to cloud the Jedi's mind so that they can't see what is about to happen to them. In other words... they couldn't see the future because of the Sith.
  • thecookie - December 22, 2008 6:35 a.m.

    you may have a point with a few things. but you also have to remember that when yoda had trouble lifting the xwing, he was also very old and weakened. and had been out of touch with The Force for some time so as to not be felt through it by vader. and when you consider that there are only a fair few that have the ability to use and focus The Force, that greatly decreases the extent to which an individual can accomplish with The Force alone.

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