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PS4 doesn't restrict used games or require an online connection

PlayStation 4 will impose no new restrictions on used games, and you don't have to be online to play it. Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Jack Tretton grinned onstage at Sony's E3 press conference as he countered many gamer's greatest concerns with the next generation.

"We believe in the model that people embrace today with PlayStation 3, and continue to demand," Tretton said.

Users who purchase a disc-based game keep the rights to that game: they can trade it in at retail, lend it to a friend, or keep it forever.

And they'll be able to play single-player games offline forever--no 24 hour window like Xbox One. The gauntlet has been dropped.

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42 comments

  • pokepark7 - June 12, 2013 5:01 p.m.

    well that's a relief
  • Galgomite - June 11, 2013 10:40 p.m.

    I gotta admit, I thought both consoles would have about the same DRM. I thought publishers would force the issue. But suddenly Sony looks like Apple circa 2005. I am impressed.
  • BladedFalcon - June 11, 2013 9:24 p.m.

    Yup, this moment is pretty much the highlight of the entire E3 for me. Frankly, I feel like overall, the Sony Conference was the weakest in terms of presentation, it was slow and sluggish, and they didn't show that many exclusives. BUT, it still fucking won for me, because god dammit, knowing that it won't have any of that online or DRM bullshit just automatically made everything else so worth it.
  • N7Spartan95 - June 11, 2013 4:25 p.m.

    Man, Sony trolled Microsoft really good with that one. I'm personally getting an Xbox One, but I thought this was funny as hell.
  • mafyooz - June 11, 2013 11:39 a.m.

    Maybe they should have spent it getting you some English lessons?
  • PatHan-bHai - June 11, 2013 6:19 a.m.

    Xbone has just fallen down the deepest well ever.
  • jh4911 - June 11, 2013 4:01 a.m.

    This is hilarious.
  • Firepunch - June 11, 2013 3:53 a.m.

    You could just replace this with a middle finger with the words "For you Microsoft" and the message still would have been the same
  • JarkayColt - June 11, 2013 2:44 a.m.

    I haven't seen the entire conference (just everything after and including the Watch Dogs demo) but this announcement was definitely the best part; it was the only thing I really wanted to hear. I want to be able to have full ownership of my discs, so I can lend them, or buy and sell used games, as well as being able to play offline if I like. It's just a very basic thing that you expect. The cheering and applause that followed those announcements spoke volumes. I hope people will speak with their wallets and support Sony if they share their principles. The ONLY 'downer' is how they used it as an avenue for stealthily sneaking in the part about having to be a Plus subscriber for online multiplayer access. But that hardly matters, since I assume you can still use other online services without the subscription, and the fact they're giving away Drive Club on top of all the other Plus goodies more than makes up for it anyway. That disc sharing video is also damned funny! XD
  • Scoob - June 11, 2013 1:21 a.m.

    I think that MS' used game thing with the XBO is BS, though I've never really bought used games since they went to disk format anyway. But it's kind of funny seeing the gaming populace over the last few years rip into Gamestop and the used games market, harping about how it hurts developers, and ultimately, the gamer. Then this whole DRM type stuff control over used games crops up, and all of a sudden, everybody wants used games again. The video game fan is an interesting breed of consumer indeed.
  • FoxdenRacing - June 11, 2013 7:30 a.m.

    It's not a black and white issue, which is where the apparent irony is coming from. A few 'chosen sons' look down on everyone that doesn't buy the way they do [typically preordering as soon as it's announced, not waiting for previews/reviews], and a few rabid [yet naive] fanboys have no idea how the distribution chain works. A largely silent and extremely large majority have no problem with used...but no matter what group we're in, most of us also see that Gamestop has gone too far. They've taken used from being just another part of the industry to being parasitic on the same. And we get mighty upset when publishers/etc decide to go after the easy target...gamers...instead of storming into Gamestop HQ and demanding 'Dude, WTF?'
  • Divine Paladin - June 11, 2013 10:10 a.m.

    Well GameStop's employee policies are notoriously bad, so I'm not sure about your last paragraph. Other than that, I have to say that I actually do sell to GameStop often, not because I like them, but because I find that the people that complain the most about GameStop ripping people off simply don't know how to rip THEM off. GameStop rewards you for being smart and trading in at the ideal times for deals, and the company seems to actually like the people that do this, in an odd way. Obviously they dick over people that don't know about the deals coming up or that specifically don't want to trade in at a certain time, but if you're patient you'll almost always get the game's full value there. (Note I mean how much it's worth to sell to somebody, not how much it's worth to buy used, just for clarification.)
  • FoxdenRacing - June 11, 2013 10:13 a.m.

    I agree with everything you're saying...but I have other options, and use them. I have no less than 2 chains of locally-owned [or at least locally-franchised] game stores [Just Press Play and Play'n'Trade] that are more knowledgeable, less pushy, and generally more "hungry" [willing to go that extra mile because customers aren't a commodity to them]...plus overarching entertainment shops like FYE/Suncoast carry used games as well, and thanks to the anime/JRPG crossover their clientele are more likely to bring in the obscure stuff as trades. I'm quick to support the positive benefits of used...largely negating the 'you had to be there' effect, allowing gamers to broaden their horizons with games they don't know if they'll be into on the cheap, and generally taking a hit today for the chance at a loyal customer tomorrow. Out of personal anecdote, one used purchase of Borderlands has turned into [thanks to word of mouth and my own personal enjoyment] 5 new copies, 6 full sets of DLC, 3 Loot Chests, 2 new copies of #2, a PAX'13 Loot Chest, and 5 full sets of #2's DLC [including add-on characters]. They've more than made back the $10 they lost to me buying used, as I wasn't convicted enough to pay full price...and none of my friends would have played it without being able to borrow my copy or play split-screen at my place. I just think that Gamestop has taken it too far, which is why I'm against that company specifically rather than used as a whole. And that very snowball effect is what MS, EA, and all the guys chasing the mythical 1:1 players to purchases ratio are ignoring. The system that clamps down on used, that clamps down on "Retail Renters" [the guys that perpetually roll over 'new game -> sell back a week later'] is going to see a huge drop in sales. I don't want Gamestop to die in a fire as much as I want them to pull their heads back into the sunshine and step back across the 'parasitic' line. You can provide all the services of secondhand without working to be counterproductive to the health of the industry. If places like FYE and locally-owned game stores can do it, surely a global corporation can. That's what I was getting at...along with suggesting publishers are afraid of the collateral damage that would result from two 800lb gorillas getting into a slugging match...so rather than addressing the root of the problem, they instead pick on the little guy.
  • Jet - June 11, 2013 12:49 a.m.

    I wish they saved this video for the show. Would have been hilarious there as well
  • Hobogonigal - June 11, 2013 12:04 a.m.

    Ah, thats hilarious!! I really have to say, although I enjoyed the xbox, it really does look like the PS4 is where it's at. Sorry Xbone...
  • tuomotaivainen - June 10, 2013 9:51 p.m.

    *looks at Sony and PS4* *looks at Microsoft and Xbox One* *keeps looking at Microsoft* *tilts head back* *points at Microsoft and laughs non-stop*
  • ljrivarola - June 10, 2013 9:43 p.m.

    Is that a real box for PS4 games? Looks interesting! I love the music on the video, and I love the video! AND I LOVE HOW SONY DID WHAT GAMERS ASKED: THEY GAVE US ANSWERS

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