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A working-class hero (or villain) is something to be

Words: Mikel Reparaz, GamesRadar US
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nadrewod999  - 6 months 3 days ago 
Hey everyone! I know you made a guide on how to be evil in Fallout 3, and I am currently working on my evil trophies (after which I will just need to beat the game on hard and get all the blast shards to get the platinum trophy), so I was hoping you could give us a guide on how to be evil because I am at the first metro train level (named "The Rescue") as an Outlaw, and I just want to make sure, before I complete the mission in a good way, that I know what to do to get the evil train trophy and that I can do it. Also, if anyone wants any spoilers just leave a comment here and I will post the comment here with Spoiler Alert written on top of the message.
loonyman978  - 6 months 3 days ago 
@Howetzer, well said. @nadrewod999, basically to be evil, just do the most selfish option available. Its surprisingly not to difficult at all on hard, in fact, all the trophies are easy to get. I just need to do one more stunt and get a few more high fall kills and I'll have my first platinum :D
RabidCabbage  - 6 months 3 days ago 
Cripes, that's a lot of replies. I'm pleased that reviewers are willing to give their honest evaluation of a game regardless of how easy it would be to follow the herd. Please keep up the good work, Mr. Reparaz.
RabidCabbage  - 6 months 3 days ago 
Sorry, me again. Just read Howetzer's reply, and the fact that a review does not conform exactly to other people's does not in the least bit make it unreliable or irrelevant. I believe that all the reviews in question, including this one, have been positive. In this case, Mikel found that the game is affected too much by its flaws to be scored higher than a 7. As Mikel I know from Talkradar is someone who has played a ridiculous amount of sandbox games, it's not like he doesn't know what he is talking about. I think it's very insulting to declare the review section of a website worthless based on an intelligent, explained assessment.

The UK magazine PSW giving Lair 8/10, for instance, raises an eyebrow, because it is a positive appraisal of a game panned by the rest of the industry, without if I recall correctly any account for the disparity. That is not the situation here.
nadrewod999  - 6 months 3 days ago 
I know to be selfish if I want to be evil, I just need to know HOW TO BE FREAKING SELFISH ON THE FIRST TRAIN MISSION!!!!!!!!!!
Howetzer  - 6 months 3 days ago 
@ RabidCabbage
I am not saying that thier reviews have to conform to everyone else's. I am saying that when you have a data set (all of the reveiews on any particular game) and you have one or a very few of the total amount of said reveiws that fall waaay outside all of the others, this is what is commonly refered to as outside the margin of error. In other words since this reveiw falls soo far out of line with all the other (again independent and professional) reveiws, this result is as good as a non-result or basically worthless. Its like you said yourself UK magazine (and I am just going off what you said, I do not know this for sure) gave Lair 8/10 when that falls so far out of line for most other reveiws I would also throw that result out, because it is simply too different to be giving you an accurate result. It is actually the basic principle behind acuracy now that I think of it. Imagine a bow and arrow target. The goal of being accurate is to get all of your shots on that target in the same general area, I believe this is reffered to as a grouping or a "tight grouping" which means that if you had 5 shots, that all 5 are very close to one another. Do not confuse this with being precise which would mean your shots are on the bullseye. Anyways imagine now that 4 of your 5 shots are very close to each other, but one of the five has landed clear across the target almost off the target. This is an in-accurate shot. This is what I am saying, this reveiew is the arrow on the very edge of the target. Because this one arrow is so far off perhaps there was a strong gust of wind? A faulty arrow? the reason doesn't even matter the point is this one arrow is so much different from all the others that its result can be thrown out to keep the data sets integrity intact.
Also by the way, I know all of you people are all into the snowflake thing and how everyone is different and special and everyone can have different opinions and because of that different reveiw scores, I am simply saying to you no you can't. They cannot be that different from one another otherwise what the hell is the point of reveiwing them and giving them a score? Because these are all professional reveiws and they are quantifying a games quality by giving it a number score they should all fall within a fairly (but not tiny) range of numbers to have it said that there has been any kind of accuracy to all of the reviews as a whole.
So you see, it is because of this that I am throwing out this result because it basically would otherwise bring in-accuracy to the resluts of all the other reveiws done by seperate parties. If most of the other reveiws gave this game a 7 of course it would be another story, however this is not the case. Hopefully I have explained my reasoning behind my decision now, but hey what's it really matter to you anyways Cabbage? Just let me be a retard if you think I am one anyways right? lol

oh and @loonyman978, thanks.
nadrewod999  - 6 months 3 days ago 
Hey guys, sorry I came off sounding so mean in my last post, I just want to know, do I simply take the train to the station and my karma ranking determines whether it is a good or evil act, or do you have to do something extra before the station in order to be considered evil? I already tried to open the doors in Reaper territory (just shocked that car for a few seconds), tried to detach the cars from each other (did nothing), and tried to explode the cars (just shocked them for a few seconds)
nadrewod999  - 6 months 3 days ago 
also, @loonyman978, I didn't want to take any chances for my first sets of trophies by going on too tough a difficulty the first two times around (oddly enough, the boss fights were easier the later you went in the game and the other missions (especially the balloons *shudder*) got tougher the closer you got to the Ray Sphere (read: the end)), so I set the difficulty to Easy on both of my runs so far, one of them stuck at the train, the other one with a dead Kessler (also, the credits are kinda short for Infamous, and you need to see the cutscene after them in order to get the finishing trophies, or else you will keep loading your game at a point where you still need to kill Kessler)
RabidCabbage  - 6 months 2 days ago 
A 7 is a positive score. So is a 9. A seven is a less positive score, but it remains a positive one, thus fitting with your archery analogy. I don't wished to lumped in with "all you people" in seeing people and review scores as snowflakes, because it's an absurd idea. What does it matter to me? I didn't agree with your opinion, so I felt it would be prudent for me to join the discussion. I don't have a personal vendetta against anyone; I just think competent reviewers should be free to give a game the score they deserve without being vilified or branded an irrelevance. Time for me to move on, I think. It's nice to see a discussion of a kind here now, though.
Howetzer  - 6 months 2 days ago 
Agreed Cabbage.

+cough+ eventhoughyou'vetotallymissedmypoint *cough* lol
r3ap3r  - 6 months 2 days ago 
u bash the editor of a website and magazine that u r a part of because he gave an opinion [that is 100% true] on a game that made u cry because the ps3 sucks. ur bashin the wrong person here bash the developers or even better yet sony 4 their poor excuse of a console with its crappy game library.
Howetzer  - 6 months 2 days ago 
Before you run you're in-bred red-neck idiot mouth r3ap3r, you should really try and read my posts and please feel free to look up the words that are too big for you to understand before you say one word about what I have said because obviously you didn't understand one word of it.
Also, funny story but I would have my friend with his Xbox 360 play one of his games that he loves for me so I could see how much more awesome it is than my PS3, but its RROD..... AGAIN and so it just sits in his house until Bill Gates swings by to pick it up for the 3 week repair time.
Fucking Idiot.
loonyman978  - 6 months 1 day ago 
LOL!!!
DJ_Funktris  - 6 months 19 hours ago 
I played the demo and my friend had the game (he traded it back very quickly because it was boring) it is great for about 2days worth of play but then it all becomes a bit repetetive! Why not just wait for Assassins Creed 2?
Jason.Darksavior  - 6 months 4 hours ago 
I think it's true that the city is a bit bland but I reckon it should have a higher mark than 7...More like 8 or more.
loonyman978  - 6 months 2 hours ago 
The city isn't as bad as your making out. Each island has it's own feel and, Neon is very bright, Warren is a mess and you can always see the jail or Aldens' tower and the historic district is a bit darker and grey with taller buildings. I bet if I walked in on someone playing it, I could tell what part there in.
RageGreen  - 5 months 25 days ago 
Just because you guy's dont agree with the review does not mean it's bias.
It's a different opinion, if someone loved a game you hate does that make them wrong?
No.
It's purely that the bad shone out more than the good, which i can completely agree with.
Great Review and totally accurate.
Spectre  - 5 months 23 days ago 
@Howetzer: Ok, I read your posts, are you pulling those numbers straight from your ass? or are you telling me you collected all the numeric reviews of every professional reviewer out there, then calculated the averages? and if so, for what end? Opinions are based in the realm of emotion and therefore are not quantifiable between two people. Especially when the opinion is of a product that is being judged and scored on differing criteria.
May I further remind everyone that when you click on the review section of any page, you went to them for their opinion. Not hard fact, but what they thought of it.

Also, you give a false analogy for this. If we were to compare reviews in general to an archer, all reviews would have to stem from a single source (or Archer). Now, the base flaw in your analysis of this data is that you are trying to measure accuracy versus a unified theory of value. This would be better analyzed as a survey, which rates peoples opinions. You wouldn't get a definitive YES or NO. but you would be able to see who likes it, who doesn't, and who is undecided or neutral, to what degree(according to them), and the number of each.

As for my final word to you, perhaps its time to really look at why you seem to have this sociopathic need to correct peoples opinions so that they conform. Is it routed in OCD, or an inferiority complex? Is it that the data isn't matching up evenly or that you think your opinion is the only one that matters? Don't bother to answer, its rhetorical. Look it up.

@Loonyman978: True, each section has its own feel, but I still think it could have done with some more definitive changes according to what you did. To be honest my first play through I hardly noticed any change at all. For instance, the rubble is cleared away, and the buildings start to take the boards down. But at the same time, garbage is still everywhere, people are sleeping on the street, etc. so the streets always seem to be cluttered and dirty. My only suggestion for it, is the same as my suggestion for prototype, that maybe setting the 3-Week time limited story was a mistake, if time passed with no mention of how much,(As in GTA series) then whole buildings could be believably rebuilt to give a better sense of accomplishment. Not really a FLAW, just something to consider for the sequel.

@nadrewod999: There are two types of missions, Karma choice, and Regular. In Karma choice what you do effects your karma by a clear action taken, which is always pointed out by the freeze frame where Cole talks to himself. The Train mission is a regular one, where your current Karma level determines what happens. if you're at Outlaw just play the mission and you'll get the evil train award. Trust me, I'm an anonymous guy on the internet, would I lie to you? ;)

And to everyone. I enjoyed inFamous, but I gave it a 7 too. It was fun and the story was good, but it was just good, not great. *Spoiler alert* For instance, the girlfriend. I think its a terrible idea in a game that involves choice to not only have a character die no matter the choice, but also for flawed logic and motivation. I've played through as both good and evil but I always cringe at the stage where you make a choice on who to save, the girl or the doctors. If there was such a choice she should be in one static location, whether she lives or dies is the choice, so let me have it. Then when you get to the end and Kessler tells you about the future how he couldn't save his family and he killed her (even though he's still in love with her by his own admission) to make his younger self more hardened for tough choices. Here's the deal: If he was so torn apart by losing them that he went back in time, why not train himself to fully use his powers (and hell why not use the bomb like before) but then teach Cole that running doesn't solve anything. I really find it hard to believe he tore a hole in time and space because of his grief then discarded her without a second's thought. Or hell, you can even have it go the entire game that he killed her, then (if you're good) it turns out Sasha just used that mind trick on you to think she was dead. and if you're evil you killed her but didn't give a damn. makes a little more sense, properly explains motivation, and gives a sense of accomplishment that you made a choice. but that's just my opinion.
nadrewod999  - 5 months 21 days ago 
@spectre: THANK U SOOOO MUCH!!!!!!! I have been waiting for almost 2 weeks for an answer! I will just load up my game, make a new save file (in case something goes wrong), and play through the mission (and possibly the game:)
cubsfan101  - 5 months 21 days ago 
too bad InFamous isn't on 360. I would've bought it even if some reviewers thought it was cheap.
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InFamous

Genre: Action
Release date: 29 May 2009
Published by: SCEA
Developed by: Sucker Punch
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