ok, i agree with the fact that wii and the lego series is getting old, but saint's row is different than gta in that it is way over the top, especially with the HIGHLY anticipated sequel, yes this game has a very large fan base. also you say that the game has controversal and stereotypical characters. does the gta franchise not? i mean look at that one jamacan guy in gta4, he always smokes weed and you cant understand a word he says, i think thats a little stereotypical. also the guitar hero franchise, for me and a whole other fan base, is not old and out dated at all. yes, this game gets repetitvie for some people but its becomeing a game for those who are actually good at it. thats all.