PlayStation Plus not needed for Netflix, F2P multiplayer on PS4

PlayStation Plus will be required for much of PlayStation 4's online multiplayer, but several PlayStation Network services will remain free-of-charge. Joystiq attended a few roundtable meetings with Sony Computer Entertainment execs which cleared up the new console's online service plans.

A 12-month subscription will remain $50 in the U.S., SCEA VP of Publisher & Developer Relations Adam Boyes said, and current subscriptions will extend to PS4. The multiplayer restrictions bring PS Plus closer in line with the current implementation of Xbox Live Gold, save for a few important differences: for one, video services (like Netflix) will not require it.

While many titles will require the service, free-to-play multiplayer games can be inside or outside the paywall. Sony Worldwide Studios President Shuhei Yoshida said at another roundtable that "it's the publisher's decision whether they put it inside or outside of PS Plus."


  • Technodude - June 15, 2013 1:07 a.m.

    Looks like I'm gonna have to get myself a renewal on PS+ then! I can finally play the free copy of Burnout Paradise I got again!
  • pokepark7 - June 14, 2013 5:46 p.m.

    ok that is somewhat cool
  • mafyooz - June 13, 2013 12:05 a.m.

    That's not quite how PS+ works in my experience. I set my daughter up a profile on our PS3 for playing things like Eyepet and Learning With the PooYoos, but obviously didn't make her a PSN account. While it was possible to play games I'd downloaded using my PS+ subscription on her account the was no way to piggyback it to get access to the store or any other online functions. Neither was my wife able to take advantage of the PS+ discounts on the store using her PSN ID, and I assume that multiplayer on PS4 would be tied to your PSN account, rather than the console itself. It could still do with proper clarification, but I don't think your scenario would actually be the case, although I would really love to be proved wrong ;)
  • mafyooz - June 13, 2013 1:24 a.m.

    I would certainly hope this as it would be ridiculous to have to pay for 3 subs so that myself, my wife and my step-son could use a large part of the machines functionality. I think it would also be in Sony's best interest, if they want to keep maintaining the huge amount of consumer goodwill they've gained for themselves recently. Until there's official clarification I'll remain skeptical though, at the end of the day the prime motivation of any large corporation like Sony is making money for themselves and their shareholders (which a worrying amount of people don't seem to be able to grasp), so whenever they appear to be giving with their left hand I always start wondering what they'll try to take with their right, although maybe I'm just getting too cynical in my old age.....
  • mafyooz - June 13, 2013 1:30 a.m.

    "I would certainly hope this is the case" - you'd think as someone who used to do proof reading as part of their job I'd have better standards for myself!!! ;)
  • berry87 - June 14, 2013 1:24 a.m.

    As much as I agree with you on the whole big corporation taking money. At this moment in time, Sony has me in their grasp for one very simple thing. They told me honestly why they are charging for multiplayer, and microsoft have just shoved it down our fronts from day one and that doesn't sit well with me. Honesty is the best policy. still a long time till release so we'll see how they clear things up with that, if they keep the price low then it's fine. xbox live don't charge 4 people in the same house they do have a family package i believe. I'm hoping sony just says this is just a one off payment for each console.
  • berry87 - June 14, 2013 1:19 a.m.

    Maybe if you made her a psn account it may of worked, as ps+ is part of the psn and not just a simple account you set up at first. but we'll see, maybe try set her an account up and check.
  • archnite - June 12, 2013 8:46 p.m.

    So long as I never see adds put on the XMB (or whatever PS4 uses) and the Game Collection stays awesome I have no problem with this.
  • Tjwoods18 - June 12, 2013 7:17 p.m.

    So how do you define F2P games? Freemium titles with microtransactions?
  • archnite - June 12, 2013 8:44 p.m.

    Basically yeah, that's what F2P games are.
  • shockwave972 - June 12, 2013 5:33 p.m.

    does PS4 or PS3 have party chat?
  • archnite - June 12, 2013 8:45 p.m.

    PS4 has cross game party chat PS3 does not have cross game party chat but does have a party chat function separate of other applications along with mic support for in-game chats.
  • JarkayColt - June 12, 2013 3:32 p.m.'s JUST for online multiplayer, right? So...does that mean you can still access your friends list, trophy list, the store, and all the other online features, like the new videos & sharing stuff? It's just, that would seem pretty weird, actually, that you can do everything BAR multiplayer. Not that anyone's long as Netflix still works, that's all I needed to know. Although I imagine Sony will come up with somekind of Plus subscription discount deal shortly before the PS4 launches to get more people notified and on the bandwagon...I would buy into it. Actually I might just do it now. Hmm.
  • FoxdenRacing - June 13, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    The only confirmed change from how Plus works now is that multiplayer is being moved from PSN to Plus, and only for PS4 games. PS3/Vita will remain free for multiplayer. So yes, Netflix will still work without plus. Not sure on the other 'new for PS4' stuff, they haven't said anything either way. And they just started a subscription discount deal today. $10 off a year's subscription.
  • JarkayColt - June 13, 2013 9:52 a.m.

    Ah, well, that's pretty neat. I would honestly rather pay for Plus to access multiplayer as opposed to having to activate/buy online passes for every individual game, and all that junk. All the freebies don't hurt, either! I think I'll take advantage of the discounts and buy a year's subscription sometime soon, in the knowledge that it will carry over to PS4. Still, in their new push for Plus subscribers and their giving away of free, digital-only games, I can't help but wonder if it isn't their way of preparing us consumers for the inevitable digital-only, pseudo-rental future of games.
  • FoxdenRacing - June 13, 2013 10:19 a.m.

    I've been desperately digging around looking for a confirmation or denial of online passes. I hate the stupid things with a passion, and so far Sony has been nebulous about it whether they'll continue. This is pure conjecture, but their statements so far can be twisted to mean that Plus for multiplayer is replacing online passes for Sony-published games...which fine by me, as passes are an abomination best left to die in a fire. I don't have a huge problem with charging for console netplay, as long as the value's there. It's not a PC, I can't install my own matchmaking client, so I have to rely on theirs...and running a dedicated matchmaking service is friggin' expensive. I'm annoyed with Live right now though, as they have the nerve to charge me a borderline-excessive fee and then make scads of money off me on the back-side via subjecting me to a deluge of ads. My big question about the future of PSN is what third parties will do. Some, like EA, really like their in-house servers...devs love to have added stats-tracking and 'ooh, shiny!' things to keep customers engaged, and corporate loves the idea of having a kill switch to 'encourage' us to buy a newer iteration of a franchise. Wholly digital distribution I'm not worried about, at least not yet. There's industry players that want DD, want Software as a Service, want all these things as a way to chase the impossible 1:1 clients to sales ratio. It's a fool's errand; if you mistreat your customers in the name of money...soon enough, you'll have neither. Notice that the companies pushing hardest for them are the ones with budgets spiraling out of control, the ones with extremely topheavy organizations, and are watching their companies slowly crumble beneath them, wondering why they're being fed successively less every time they bite the hand that feeds...while the guys that have kept their heads could care less.

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