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Why Star Wars: The Old Republic is better than another KOTOR

Disappointed that BioWare went MMO? Here are six reasons to get excited again

Words: GamesRadar US

If you’re a fan of MMOs, last week was pretty damn exciting for you. BioWare announced they would be adapting the beloved Star Wars universe, and the equally beloved Knights of the Old Republic franchise, into a massively multiplayer online experience.

However, if you’re a fan of just Star Wars... or just Knights of the Old Republic... or just not the MMO genre... then last week probably ranged somewhere between “bit of a letdown” to “huge disappointment.” You desperately want to continue supporting your favorite universe and your favorite game series, but seriously, an MMO? This about sums it up.

We know. We were once as skeptical as you, but after sitting in on the official announcement at LucasArts headquarters, we’ve come away eager and excited all over again. Here are the six things that convinced us, quoted from a roundtable discussion with the game’s lead writer.

The story still matters. The story is still Star Wars.

Daniel Erickson, Lead Writer on Star Wars: The Old Republic:

“It is 3,600 years before the movies. It is 300 years after Knights of the Old Republic 2.

The Sith Empire shows up and surprise attacks the Galactic Republic. Pretty much totals them, then calls for a truce, to which the Jedi say, ‘No, it’s a trap.’ The Republic says ‘We have to do it,’ and while they’re off signing the treaty, the Sith Empire slaughters all their major people and sacks Coruscant. This forces them into a much, much worse truce in which they must give up all sorts of different planets. Now we have a Cold War scenario with border wars and skirmishes happening.

When the game starts, the truce is going to break. Everyone knows it – the big war is coming.”

Don’t like MMOs? Think of The Old Republic as KOTOR multiplied.

“RPGs for BioWare are always built on four pillars. Combat, exploration, progression... and story. You put all these things on a truck and you drove them to MMO land, but one of them fell out and never got there. When we started talking about doing a BioWare MMO, it was obvious to us that you have to have all four things.

Stories frozen in time aren’t stories. A story that goes nowhere isn’t a story. Most MMOs have background, and the people you meet have a story. But you don’t have a story. Your story doesn’t progress, characters don’t change and nothing you do does anything. You don’t have a story - you have a background.  When the whole twist is that the villain secretly wants you to kill him because he has problems with his mother, nobody cares. But everyone cared about the KOTOR twist because it said ‘this is about you.’

If you’re someone who doesn’t play MMOs but loves BioWare games... If you’re thinking, ‘I just wish they made another KOTOR,’ you could pick up this game and just have your multiple KOTORs. We’re doing more content than all other BioWare games combined. You could get the exact same experience you were expecting to get. Only you cannot pause the server.”

Choosing between classes is like choosing between KOTORs.

“You have a different story depending on what class you pick, and that class story is going to take you from the beginning to the end. It’s not, ‘Level 10 – hey, I got a Jedi quest!’ It’s the context and feel of your entire experience in the game, resulting in the most unique stories we’ve ever written.

In Baldur’s Gate, we didn’t know if you were a Druid, a Warrior or a Mage. We didn’t know what your fantasy was, so we told a very classic story. Now, we know you are a Sith. You are training on Korriban and you were born in the Sith Empire; this is who you are and this is how society expects you to behave; here are your choices and here are your decisions. For all intents and purposes, when you choose Sith you are saying, ‘I want to play the Sith RPG.’  Which gives us the ability to not only tell these specific stories, but to tell stories that never would have been told... especially when you get into the classes that we can’t talk about today.

I would love to say that there was a quest that made sense for both Ben Kenobi and Darth Vader to do. We never found one. Not even one. So if you play this game as a Jedi, and then you play as a Sith, you will not see one piece of repeated story content. Not one quest, not one line. The contextualization is all important. If your fantasy is running around as Vader, you better feel like Vader all the time.”


 
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Personamanxx  - 1 year 27 days ago 
Sweet...................... to the max!!!!!
Prospero  - 1 year 27 days ago 
eh..I guess. Individually, im still not convinced. I just dont play MMOs. I know they can be fun but im just not interested in them. I even bought guild wars, and havent played it since the first day. Im hoping this game could perhaps steer my interests in MMOs because im in love with KOTOR, but i just dont know...
GoldenMe  - 1 year 27 days ago 
I still wanted a third KOTOR...
JollyCrisp  - 1 year 27 days ago 
gosh, i really dont know what to get. i can only get 1 MMO and i cant decide between this or Star Trek Online. But i am leaning towards STO more though.
benjitenji  - 1 year 27 days ago 
looks a bit like fun, but not much till i know if itl be a AMMO (action massive multiplayer online game, such as one where it takes skill to win, not just click to attack and thats it) or a regular click to attack mmo,if its AMMO i think itl be cool, but if its not, BOOOO!
LordRevan111  - 1 year 27 days ago 
I agree with Prospero, I loved the KOTOR games, and if it's 300 years later. . . how does that same story continue?
DarthSereno21  - 1 year 27 days ago 
Sounds cool. I'll get it if comes out on 360.
Juriasu  - 1 year 27 days ago 
I'm not convinced either. I don't want to run arounf doing this really epic thing, and all of a sudden bump in to a n00b asking for credits, It'll rui the whole experience!
Gowsy  - 1 year 27 days ago 
I love the link to the gif, it summed up my feelings instantly, good job!
harsh_realm  - 1 year 27 days ago 
This story can never be compelling so long as you know that nobody around you cares. Now, if you completing the story has an effect on the game world...
KitsuneFox  - 1 year 27 days ago 
Honestly, how fun is the story going to be if you have to grind for hours and hours to level up.
Someone44  - 1 year 27 days ago 
well, i seem to agree. I have played an MMO before and i see many ways they have improved upon the idea. first, this MMO should be an action MMO that actually requires skill to acheive anything... otherwise everybody would quit due to boredom. It is granted that once 500 years has passed things would have changed, but the story continues. This change has taken the form of the background of the MMO. Lastly i dought grinding for hours would be nessesary to level up, unless you want to avoid the story for a while, which defeats the whole purpose of the game because of the eccessive boredom involved. one more thing... i am not trying to get you to play the game, i am just trying to help you understand a little more about it from my point of veiw.
Is it just me or it this more of an essay than a comment?
Someone44  - 1 year 27 days ago 
doubt*
bgong  - 1 year 27 days ago 
when I think about the effect i have on my own world because of quests, i think of fable 2. and because I think of that, I think of the terrible ending it had. and because of the terrible ending it had, i come to the conclusion that maybe the story is more important than the environment around me. that's why kotor rocked, because it was an epic story. not much ever changed by way of atmosphere or environment. and in terms of some nob asking for gold, well the /ignore function is ever crucial, and frankly, as long as i get to run an epic, kickass story with my best buds (another fable 2 attempt that led to epic fail) in the star wars universe, i'm sold.
Icehearted  - 1 year 27 days ago 
A multilayer Old Republic sounds like it could have some potential, but then the MMO community is usually immature, selfish, unfriendly, racist, sexist, elitist, etc. Do I really want a pay a monthly fee to grind away for hours on boring tasks (it is a staple of the genre, like it *HA* or not)? Do I really want my Old Republic experience, the fun I may or may not have, the play, everything to be decided at the whim of 12-17 year olds looking to "pwn" me for "epic lulz"? I've played quite a few MMO games, and I remember them all the same way; miserable, boring grindfests full of immature, nasty, poorly governed players. Every time I've quit playing one I've been happier for doing so.

KOTOR 3 would have been more welcome. This transparent attempt to milk my wallet by tapping into the cash cow that Blizzard has flourished in is a huge turn off.
maedene  - 1 year 27 days ago 
i actually cant wait for this game. I love star wars, i love video games, i love star wars video games. i was dissapointed with Star Wars galaxies, but i am excited that bioware is making this game. I agree that little kids and immature teens and adults are pretty annoying in mmo's, but there are still serious gamers out there willing to play the game for what it is. I don't care what most people think, i can't wait to play this game.
TheGuy0526  - 1 year 27 days ago 
I played, beat, and loved both KOTOR games and enjoyed them to their fullest. I thought they might have come out with another one later but to hear that its gonna be a MMO is a huge let down. I cant afford an MMO but KOTOR was such an awesome series too. I had WoW for a while and had to stop playing because of the cost and now the same thing is gonna happen with this..
jacob_kreed  - 1 year 27 days ago 
KOTOR was and is still best Star Wars out there. MMO's Extra Cost, Online, No Life, Lag... BIOWARE will hopefully bring out a offline game afterwards
SpikeDelight  - 1 year 27 days ago 
I've been looking to get into an MMO but every time I tried out WoW or anything else there was something missing. Apparently this game is going to be that MMO for me. I love Star Wars and I love Bioware and I love what they're doing with this game. This will be so worth putting all that time in because not only are you playing a fun game but you're immersed in a universe that is actually recognizable and means something to you (or at least to me). The Star Wars universe is way more interesting and has a richer history than Azeroth imo but that's just me. Anyway, I'm so excited for this game!
Z-man427  - 1 year 27 days ago 
looks good, but like Mass Effect, probably won;t be a game for me

interesting side not, about a game where choices affect the out come... my Capcha Code is "moral seldom"
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