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Forza Motorsport 3 (360)


When a game like Forza Motorsport 2 comes along, taking a decent original game and propelling it into the next generation with a near definitive experience, it's hard to imagine what a second sequel could do. In Forza 3's case, it's really rather simple. The same, but BIGGER. And from the looks of things, that's exactly what we're going to get.

During a behind-closed-doors showing of the game, product manager Amritz Lay was eager to point out the new game's many numerical superiorities over its predecessor. There are now 400 cars and 100 tracks, 220 career events instead of 90, The poly count's increased tenfold and the textures are four times as detailed.

But we won't be swayed by mere statistics. The size of the game wasn't what needed fixing in Forza 2. In fact, the focus on these figures only makes us think perhaps the series has run out of ideas. Especially when it is pointed out that the bulge and roll of each tyre is now simulated and rendered in 3D, 'affecting' how the car handles. To be honest, we probably won't notice that particular difference.

What we really wanted to know was whether the new game has a soul. Forza 2, impeccable though it was in the simulation department, left many gamers feeling a little detached. The tracks were too clean, the presentation was minimalist... everything just felt a bit sterile. So it was with bated breath that we waited for the new build to load.

The good news is, our time with the game felt great, primarily because the sensation of weight is spot-on. Not in the inertia nightmare kind of way that PS3's Supercar Challenge beats you up with, either. These cars feel like their wheels are physically rolling over tarmac and the game is ready to respond to any flick of the steering wheel or feather of the throttle.

Of course, there's a technical explanation for this. The physics engine here is running at 360 frames per second. So every time you see one frame of the action, the car's position and inertia has been computed six times. Geek mode cancel. In layman's terms it means the car behaves like a car.

The game's front end is currently still too sterile and the voice of Peter Egan talking you through the game is about as phoned-in as you can get without a crackle and a handkerchief. If you've heard LittleBigPlanet's commentary from Stephen Fry, you'll know exactly what this is not like. Though strikingly similar, there's little charm and zero comedy on display here.

Of course it's a shame that you'll have to race Le Mans in 24 hours of brilliant sunshine as there's no wet weather or night-time driving. Also the addition of a 'one button' acceleration and braking system for beginners is definitely taking the driver assists one step too far. Surely nobody's that stupid?

But when you look at the returning community features, a 'rewind' button borrowed from Race Driver GRID, the devastatingly deep customisation options (which span from adjusting suspensions to completely reworking your car's parts and decals) and the fact that this has damage where Gran Turismo 5 Prologue doesn't, there's no denying this is threatening to become the ultimate console racing sim.

The team's motto may be 'to make gamers become car enthusiasts and car enthusiasts become gamers', but we reckon it'll at least make more gamers like Forza Motorsport. The game is scheduled for release on Xbox 360 on October 23 in Europe.

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68 comments

  • Felixthecat - August 24, 2009 8:51 p.m.

    Im gonna sound like a noob here but, will Tekken 6 actually be released in Europe? I've checked everywhere for a release date, but it always come's up with American, Japanese and Australian dates.
  • FlamingChaos35 - August 24, 2009 6:01 a.m.

    MODERN WARFARE 2!!!!!!! CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!
  • ConkertheSquirrel - August 24, 2009 2:40 a.m.

    I was excited about MW2 but after seen AVP and the multiplayer i think im more pumped for that
  • kyleander - August 23, 2009 6:50 p.m.

    yeah great game what campaign do you think will be the hardest
  • gtakiller7 - August 22, 2009 9:21 a.m.

    wot is messed up? just buy mw2 and enjoy it
  • magicwalnuts0 - August 21, 2009 11:57 p.m.

    Oh wow, and they removed his comment, that's awesome. You people aren't gamers, you just have a boner for this one shooter, among many shooters. You couldn't give any less of a shit about how messed up this is.
  • magicwalnuts0 - August 21, 2009 10:08 p.m.

    Wow Xboxrules all I want to do right now is peel your skin off and use it for jerky. But besides that Infinity Ward doesn't have a reason to feel like shit that people are saying not to buy their game. They should feel like shit that Activision is trying to manipulate the market by using their game to raise PC game prices. I still can't believe nobody is outraged by this.
  • twosy - August 21, 2009 9:02 p.m.

    avp and mw2 look awsome cant wait 4 ever 2 come out
  • Eo1spy - August 21, 2009 5:54 p.m.

    What Aion was trying to say was that the price of MW2 has been raised by £10 (and the equivalent) everywhere in Europe and possibly everywhere else in the world on every platform(except the US of course, who get everything for a better deal) - Which is ridiculous, the RRP is now £55 ($90). Although a lot of retailers knock off £10 usually; £45 ($74 - and Americans complain about $60 games) for a video game is absolutely ludicrous. All this price-raise by Activision is going to do is get other major publishers to follow suit and release their games for £45 as well. Thus making gamers spend even more money on games when there is still a RECESSION on in a lot of countries. I guess all the people who have said "Quit your whining" etc. are American, therefore are seemingly not affected by this price raise... In short: I am not going to by MW2 on release, hopefully buying used later on in the year, so that Activision gets no money from me.
  • GMAN2 - August 21, 2009 4:53 p.m.

    Activision is stupid, but Infinity Ward isn't. They put hours and hours of hard work into Modern Warfare 2, making new changes and listening to our feedback, and now people are saying not to buy it. How do you think that would make them feel? Like shit.
  • OddWoN ER - August 21, 2009 3:32 p.m.

    uh dude, wtf are you talking about? they charge 60 bucks for the game same as most other games..... if you dont feel like shellin out the cash, thats your choice... but many of us CoD fans like seeing the improvement between each CoD game... if you havent noticed CoD4 has incredible improvements over its successors. CoD5 while not entirely improving anything...brought good ideas to the table. such as its nazi zombie mode. with modern warfare 2 we have and are already seeing improvements...built around the game play we all love and know from CoD so if you cant realize that gameplay is what makes CoD, then your mistaken in your judgement. we buy the next iteration of CoD to add a little spice and keep play something new but familiar.. but there is no law saying you have to buy it. if some one doesnt want too buy it. they wont. for those of us who do. will.
  • kyleander - August 21, 2009 1:20 p.m.

    AvP IS GONNA BE PRETTY SCARY AS A MARINE
  • magicwalnuts0 - August 21, 2009 7 a.m.

    Yeah I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about with all this collectors edition bullshit but the PC version of MW2 is 60 fucking bucks. Now nobody seems to agree with Aion here but I sure as hell do. 60 bucks for a PC game? That's fucking ridiculous, I'm not even going to look at this trailer because I know I'm not going to buy it, as good as it is. I'm not going to risk having to pay 60 bucks for every PC game I buy because greedy ass Activision doesn't think they're making enough money off of the PC. Most importantly however is the fact that Aliens Vs. Predator was and will be one of the best multiplayer games ever made and that I'm crazy excited for a modern iteration of such an awesome series of games.
  • Zeipher - August 21, 2009 2:54 a.m.

    That's crazy, because Gamestop.com has MW2 listed for $59.99. Any idea what other games cost that amount? Here's a short list: Assassin's Creed 2, Madden 10, Batman: AA, Guitar Hero 5, Capcom Ultimate Alliance, etc. Its wild...it seems as if when a game first comes out...its always the same base price. It's obvious you have access to the internet, so I must assume you are within driving/horseback riding/covered wagon distance of a Gamestop. So maybe break out the ol' Conestoga and put your conspiracies to rest.
  • DignifiedTick - August 21, 2009 2:14 a.m.

    I love Celine Dion, she has an amazing voice. But, her lyrics are really stupid. Look, if you listen to her songs for the first time and can finish the sentence before she does, it's not really smart. So, I decided to not buy her CD's. OUCH! Honestly, aion7, shush. As if Activision will go down in sales because people won't buy from them. You do that, but millions of people still lean on Activision. (: Good luck with that, dear.
  • may.be.vital - August 21, 2009 12:45 a.m.

    ASSASINS CREED 2!!!!! ... Woah, sorry about the my mind turned to jelly =P
  • aion7 - August 21, 2009 12:28 a.m.

    Were some people really so stupid that they thought I was talking about the special edition? I, and others were talking about the normal version of the game, which costs more than every other normal game in many regions.
  • Zeipher - August 20, 2009 11:24 p.m.

    Lolz @ Samael Sucks not being able to play online on easy mode, huh? n00b And @ aion Your idealistic "fight the powers that be" speech is pretty damn weak. As every other logical user has pointed out, you don't have to buy the $160 version...but you have the option, and options = good business practice. Yeah, maybe I'd play Counter-Strike...if it was 2003. Next you're gonna tell me that I'm gonna get "Explosive single player" from Doom.
  • Cwf2008 - August 20, 2009 11:12 p.m.

    Well modern warfare 2 looks pretty awesome. I dont give a crap what you dumbasses (im looking at you aion7) say about not getting it, im getting it. If you dont want to get it, your loss
  • doomdoomdoom - August 20, 2009 10:54 p.m.

    Alien Vs Predator best mother fucking game very bitches This one is a Buy Mother fuckers I am buy this sht even if it is good or bad Shit yes! AVP MOTHER FUCKERS YEAH!!!

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