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Why BioShock 2 is a TERRIBLE IDEA

One Rapture-loving Radar editor hates the sequel already

Words: David Houghton, GamesRadar UK
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garnsr  - 6 months 23 days ago 
I'm amazed that most of the comments in this thread actually have thoughts in them, not just saying "It'll be awesome, you suck," or "yeah, it'll suck." The sequels to star Wars were not absolutely necessary, but Empire was the best of the lot. Then they went for the prequels, and ruined a lot of the magic of the originals. I fear Bioshock 2 will fall into the latter category, but we'll see. Sometimes you need to have a whole trilogy or so for all of the parts to add up to a magnificent whole. Sometimes you just need the one.
azstrathack  - 6 months 23 days ago 
I agree 100 percent. There is so much great fiction out there and cyberpunk would have been a cool genre to adapt but just like a junky they want to feel that first high again, aint gonna happen!
d0x  - 6 months 22 days ago 
I agree with alot of this. I do not want to play as a Big Daddy and that whole video interview thing makes me not want to play the game. Oooh so terrifying!

Its cool we get to play more Bioshock but it really does lose everything that made it special in the first place.

Honestly we should be playing a prequel so we can see the fall of rapture.
Satanshadow94  - 6 months 22 days ago 
So bioshock to is about the proto type bigdaddy, that makes sense but I heard something about it taking place ten years later that the first on the video???
Elementskater  - 6 months 22 days ago 
oh well.
if you don't like it, don't play it.
its not like your gonna stop them from making it by saying why they shouldn't.
solsunforge  - 6 months 22 days ago 
No element I dont think anyone is saying they shouldnt make it just that some wont play it . I will at least humour them and take a gander but if im forced to play a big daddy no way will I pay 60.00 for it. I will either wait for the price to come down or other means. To the writer who disliked bioshock for the reasons everyone likes it thats fine and your opinion but it was made the way it was for a reason and a purpose. The focus was on rapture and its twisted inhabitants not swimming around outside of rapture. I think that would detract majorly from the awesome breathtaking element of rapture.
Hecktor  - 6 months 22 days ago 
Chris Berman should be sent to Rapture to die. I can't wait till this jew has the big one on air and Tom Jackson puts his whole face in his lips trying to give him CPR. Should be a Tivo moment.
GamesRadarEricBratcher  - 6 months 21 days ago 
Late to the party, but here are my two cents. I was furious when they announced a sequel - like David, I said simply, "The story is done and it was phenomenal. Any attempt to extend it will break it." And I still stand by that statement.

However, when I attended the live demo of the game, it took exactly 30 seconds for me to get all worked up and eager to get my hands on the game.

Yes, the story elements are contrived. No, it won't be as good as the original. It simply can't be. Yes, the second game tarnishes the first a bit by its sheer existence. And yes, the RE4 to RE5 comparison is probably dead on. But I'll play it anyway. I just can't stay away.
Picnic1  - 6 months 21 days ago 
The article is good. I like the comments about it. Although there have been many videogame sequels that are better than the first in the series, when I think of Bioshock 2 I think of Metroid Prime: Echoes, both sequels to games that are rich in atmosphere, tension, poignancy and a sense of discovery. I played very little of Echoes before being dissatisified in comparison with the first game. It just didn’t feel as polished and felt like the concept of dual worlds was meant to be the hook rather than the natural desire to explore. As far as I was concerned, the first game was an adventure game that happened to have a sci-fi setting to it. Dual worlds gives the sequel a more sci-fi feel full stop, putting off some people from whom ‘sci-fi’ isn’t always a selling point. The characters in the sequel also weren’t quite as satisfying looking. I see the same thing with Bioshock 2- it seems to be becoming more sci-fi looking. It starts to affect the balance of the game from something of a ‘gothic (well, art deco) horror.

Unless you are making an out and out 'frag-fest' like Quake 3: Arena with no deep meaning, I think that it can be unwise to attach multiplayer and what may be gimmicky character changes to an idea like Bioshock. An increase in action isn’t necessarily always bad though- Some prefer James Cameron’s ‘Aliens’ to the slower pay off of Ridley Scott’s ‘Alien’. But I think that the first Bioshock game will definitely remain distinctly superior.
Smeggs  - 6 months 21 days ago 
This is why I like DLC, it adds more content to an already great game without screwing it up like a disappointing sequel.

Obviously Bioshock 2 will not be AS good as the origional, but I think its a little much to say its going to be terrible, dry and boring when nobody has really gotten a chance to play it yet. And who knows? seeing as how we've only gotten a few plot points of the main story it could wind up getting really deep like the first game.

I could lump the main plot points of the first game together and it wouldn't sound to good either.
"Hmm, big roaring robot monsters, crazy murderous deformed humans, special items that give you super powers and weapons and a creepy old otherworldly city...Is this Doom 4?"...Exactly.
sundaysupreme  - 6 months 21 days ago 
"Don't mind the scratches made through wear and tear, the monitor is still running."
I just said that, but in secret, the little things be what bothers me most.
I feel you broher, let's burn Biotwo.
solsunforge  - 6 months 19 days ago 
Hmm I get a strange feeling that the big daddy original and the big sister are or rather were married or in a relationship. It would be a obvious plot twist they could take and if its not they can have the one i offered for free. Here is another original big daddy and big sister are father and sister and were te ones that had experiments done to them and tenebaum could possibly be the mother she allowed it to happen in name of science and as a result felt guiltry and thats the reason she houses the little sisters who are clones of big sister. In effect her children. Those are free the rest I have will cost you a job on the dev team :) har har. Hope its a decent game whichever path they take.
LandoGriffinnn5334  - 6 months 18 days ago 
You (Article writer) raise some interesting points, but there is a fundamental flaw in your argument i.e. you speak in absolutes. Your entire argument hinges on the notion that the perfection that was the story/environment/closure of BioShock means that we don’t still wish to revisit it. Your argument will fall on 2 sets of deaf ears.

1. Mouth-breathers who luv rippin’ shit up and kickin’ some ass.
2. Non pseudo-intellectuals who have managed to understand that the essence of the return to Rapture should hinge on 3 simple questions:
a. Do you want to experience more of Rapture?
b. Are you open to new examples of the wonders/horrors/wondrous horrors of Rapture?
c. Are you able to view it as something additional, perhaps episodic in a sense and not be so fanboy-douche as to decry a fan service (and admittedly fiscally) motivated effort to give gamers another opportunity to enter the utopic dystopia that of the BioShock world.

You sound like the disillusioned Star Wars fans who wish the prequels never would have been made. As a man who looks back on the original trilogy with adoring eyes while casting a scornful glare at the prequels, it does nothing to diminish my love for the originals and my appreciation that there was an attempt to recapture the magic. It failed ultimately, but it was better to have tried, failed and have many of us declare it non-canon that to have never had anyone try to bring us back to that place. BioShock 2 may very well disappoint, but don’t waste your life being so smug as to not welcome an opportunity to revisit something so many of us have been clamoring for.

And a preemptive retort to your intended reply, if I may ~ Yes, BioShock 1 was basically perfect and “closed” and yes they should be investing in the next original IP in the System/Bio Shock vein, but the undeniable truth is that the vast majority of those of us who made the initial journey to Rapture are not yet ready to leave.
darkus  - 6 months 15 days ago 
i got scared the first time i saw it!!!
catlikereflexes  - 5 months 5 days ago 
The very best part of this article is the last section because that's exactly right.

After reading this, I'm not sure I can give Bioshock 2 the benefit of the doubt, or at least not as big of one. I'm still going to try to hope for the best though, even if I think I'll be disappointed.
afroninjakatana  - 4 months 13 days ago 
You guys that hate Bioshock2 before it's even out are douchebags.
TrojanGold  - 27 days 18 hours ago 
Yeah I never felt threatened by the water...
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