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The Top 7... games that don't deserve nostalgia

Honestly, they were never that great in the first place

Words: Brett Elston, GamesRadar US

Ooookay, here we go.

This was a fine game. Solid battle system, good soundtrack, memorable villain, all the things you want in an RPG. But Jesus Crackers people, let it go. It's not as good as you remember, and it never was as perfect as fanboys have let it become over the years. It's reached this untouchable, unassailable point where you're not even allowed to dislike it, let alone berate it. Well, we are. Right now.

The characters are poorly realized. Compare them to FFVI or even FFIV on the SNES and they're rote, uninteresting stereotypes that pale next to the likes of Cecil, Terra or Rydia. And Aerith, well, she's been immortalized as the biggest shock in all of RPG history somehow, even though most of the people we know barely batted an eye when she bit the dust. Our PC editor even offered this bit of constructive criticism sure to enrage the legions that had never played an RPG prior to FFVII:

"She seems passive, but she’s really passive aggressive and manipulative about her feelings for Cloud. She’s confused and doesn’t know what she wants, which is fine. But she’s too weak to do anything but smile stoically and take a beating like all perfectly tragic princesses should.

"Her death was not an example of how games can invoke a strong emotional response from the player. It’s an example of how a cutscene can trigger an emotional response, and that’s been happening since the introduction of dem dar movin’ pictures. She doesn’t deserve a literal beating. She deserves a symbolic burning in protest of what she stands for, the one dimensional Barbie Doll smiling face that will forever go on feigning optimism and happiness in the name of femininity."

The main thing to take away is that FFVII was the first RPG millions of people played, so it unfairly becomes the standard by which all others should be judged, even though it's impossible for another, better game to actually surpass it. It was a pretty good game with amazing, ahead-of-its-time presentation, enough to shroud the comparatively lame characters and style-over-substance gameplay that would define the franchise for years to come. And for all the dust it kicked up, FFVIII, released just two years later, looked phenomenally better, so even VII's unprecedented delivery was outdated in a matter of months. And if you want to talk strict gameplay, Materia is a poor man's Esper.

We like it fine, but it's nowhere near as good as people make it out to be and doesn't deserve the crushing amount of misty-eyed nostalgia it forcibly extracts - and that's as true today as it was in 1997. 

Wanna get worked up over an entirely different list of videogames you love/hate? Check out our Top 7 Compendium for more of the good stuff.

May 12, 2008


 
43 Comments
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key0blade  - 1 year 2 months ago 
I wish I had FFVII...
tehperson123412  - 1 year 1 month ago 
and yet, gr wonders why there are 100 reasons to hate them...
Corsair89  - 1 year 1 month ago 
Whatever. I still love FFVII.
ryzuku  - 1 year 30 days ago 
I thought FFVII was alright, and I love good RPGs, especially ones with good stories. But, I never understood why so many people held it in such high regard. I just didn't really enjoy it that much.
tehperson123412  - 1 year 21 days ago 
never mind my comment. shoulda actually SEEN the 100 reasons to hate gr. but still it's pretty hard to get away with a list like this
Stinger911  - 11 months 26 days ago 
Final Fight?! And then the article writer continues to blaspheme against one of the greatest genres of all time: the beat 'em up! Repent! Repent, blasphemer!
mrbutlertron  - 11 months 25 days ago 
Some of those beat 'em ups were hella fun to play with a sibling or friend, but there's a reason Turtles in Time was 25 minutes long. There wasn't a whole lot of variety.
sepirothpk  - 11 months 17 days ago 
I'm playing FFVII now, and I'm finding it a great game. While the graphics haven't aged too well, I believe the story and characters are actually quite good. FFVI was good too, but they also had stereotyped characters and the story wasn't that "original" as people claim. I beleive them both to be good games
njdevils09  - 9 months 7 days ago 
Final Fantasy VII is WAAAAAAAAY better than you guys make it out to be. The story was great, the gameplay was incredibly deep (when you finally found some incredible combination of materia that worked well against Sephiroth, it was pretty freaking rewarding), AND Aerith is better understood after playing Crisis Core, but I did walk away from the game knowing that she was way more than just some face. Please note: I played and beat this in 2007 for the first time ever. I had an N64, not a PS1 (unfortunately) so I played it on my PS2. It's my second favorite game of all-time, only to FFX. It's truly a matter of preference, but if you're really into RPGs, you'd be a fool not to appreciate the sheer depth (visually and gameplay-wise) of this game. Perhaps you don't like it, but I don't like Zelda at all. I think Zelda should be number 1 on your list. Ocarina of time, actually. Why? Because I don't like it. At all. Oh wait, I don't like adventure games that much and that's a completely unfair assessment of a game I've barely even played. Maybe I should apply for a job here.
familiarrealms6  - 9 months 4 days ago 
FFvii is one of the single greatest games of all time. it was one of the first games i ever played on the ps1 and i stilled played it towards the end of the ps2 era even ocasionally nowadays.I'm now a 360 gamer to the core and i still find that alot of future gaming can learn alot from the deepness of the storylines used in ffvii. OK, the characters were a little stereotypical, and the gameplay was weak in some areas. But people, ffvii was revelutionary at its time,and 12 years onwards i would still say yes to it over anything.
Slaanash  - 8 months 30 days ago 
I think your sort of missing the point.

FF7 is better then GR is saying, but not nearly as good as your saying it is.
XNewAgeWarriorx  - 8 months 29 days ago 
im playing ff7 now.... for the first time (yes shock) beacuse of all the crap rpgs being released nowdays. its a great game so far and dusnt seem to be letting up the pace one bit
RedOutlive10  - 8 months 21 days ago 
Oh my,... jackpot with FFVII. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad game. But have any of the people ready to defend FFVII all the times even played Final Fantasy VI ?

It's far more deep, the story is more involving, it doesn't revolve around some oddballs trying to figure what the hell he's supposed to be all the time. The combat is about the same as FFVII. The music is equal, even though the boss tune of FFVI was freaking epic. Even Kefka is more interesting than Sephiroth. FFVII is overrated compared to what Square has offered us before.
sepirothpk  - 7 months 22 days ago 
To RedOutlive 10:
Yes I played Final Fantasy VI. It was a great game. However, I find the stories both equal, though sometimes both annoy me slightly. And Celes is similar to Cloud in some aspects. However, I disagree with the Kefka thing. He was a good villain, but he was the type who was pathetic until he got the ultimate power. Sephiroth was always intimidating. It does deserve nolstagia, jut maybe not as much as everyone gives it. I don't have any for it, because I have only been playing it recently
jimsondanet  - 7 months 22 days ago 
hmm yes couldnt have said it better myself, sephiroth was an intimidating character. he actually inspired dread. kefka, however, was a clown. a freaking CLOWN!!!
IronicBob  - 7 months 22 days ago 
I... Shall... Not... Clown...
Gsindahouse  - 7 months 22 days ago 
I skipped the Love or Hate games article, cause I didn't feel like logging in, but maaan... I HAVE to comment this one
Sonic Adventure, ESPECIALLY DX WAS TIGHT!!! of course the second one crushed it, but that's no reason to demean the first!
And when the heck did 'Oregon Trail' get any nostalgia?
People LOVED the Final Fantasy 7!
and Ninja Turtles 4 for SNES was off the chain, see I aint feelin yall this time
killboo  - 7 months 21 days ago 
Just get over it fanboy. What GR said about FFVII is quite true.
DabilahroNinja  - 7 months 18 days ago 
Everyones commenting on FFVII, So shall I.
I actually preferred FFVI, as they said, but I still think FFIX is the best in the series. I don't care what people say, and I think that what GR said about Aeris is right. I actually started laughing when she died...actually, waitaminute, I laugh when ANYONE dies in ANY game. Maybe I need a psychiatrist.
vine1313  - 7 months 18 days ago 
While I love FF VII, I have to agree wIth some of the comments made by GR. To me it was no shock when Aeris died, I actually was surprised more when I talked to friends about it and they were devastated that they killed her. I didn't, and still don't, understand all the hype surrounding her, she is a good character, but disposable.
I also have to agree that FF VII has been put on such a high shelf, some 12 years after being released, that it is in the way of new and better games from being the standard by which all games strive to surpass. It was revolutionary for its time, but that was 12 years ago, let it go people. This game is the reason for a lot of the really bad games out there. For examples, just go to your local Video game stores, all the games that they have Used. If they have more then five copies of it Used in their store, it is a bad game, and probably because it used FF VII as a guide.
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