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i agree with Tasty_Pasta, Max Payne had a very mature story, and I'm surprised Gabriel Knight didn't make the cut (not because of its maturity, but because of the author), and also I think you should have put a spoiler warning at least somewhere in there, you gave away one of Bioshock's biggest twists

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climbing wolf - 1 year 28 days ago

Cod4 and Half Life series should have been on there, even if just as little blurbs.....still, really cool.

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Ban - 1 year 28 days ago

I salute you mister Barrat on this article keep up the good job

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TheSuburbiaRuins - 1 year 28 days ago

I believe The Darkness would have been a very good candidate,

But good article charlie

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SpongeJerk - 1 year 28 days ago

No Halo 1.

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skyguy343 - 1 year 28 days ago

Shadow of the Colossus had a great story

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FriendlyFire - 1 year 28 days ago

Very nice article indeed. I'd be tempted to say like others and add Assassin's Creed and Beyond Good & Evil to the list. Maybe World in Conflict too, as I found the story had some pretty deep moral subjects.

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xXHaloKillerXx - 1 year 28 days ago

You missed Scarface The World Is Yours,Gears of War and Halo 3.

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iluvmyDS - 1 year 28 days ago

Great article. Bioshock and Mass Effect both made me actually question a lot of things.

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iluvmyDS - 1 year 28 days ago

@ xXHaloKillerXx

Those games aren't mature in the sense that Charlie is speaking of.

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Urock - 1 year 28 days ago

I've been playing Fallout recently and I think that could go on the honorable mention list. What do you think?

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fffangold - 1 year 28 days ago

Thank you for writing this. I've been trying to make this point to some of my friends for a long time now, but it's difficult to convince them of the difference between a mature rating and a mature game. This article does a great job of it.

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hacksrfun - 1 year 27 days ago

What about no more heroes that seemed like an M game

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FriendlyFire - 1 year 27 days ago

Do some people even READ the article? It's not about M rating, it's about a mature game (with mature being used in the non-gaming definition).

No More Heroes is a bloodfest, it doesn't make you think or touch some controversial subjects.

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SpecialtyDrone - 1 year 27 days ago

Glad to see some Planescape love on GamesRadar. Bring it up on TalkRaider.

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Cynwyddon - 1 year 27 days ago

Yeah, Mass Effect really got my thinking. I can't imagine seeing the game as anything more that a third person shooter when I was 12.

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Ravenbom - 1 year 27 days ago

Great article. Great list.
What about Oregon Trail as an honorable mention? I'd say it's one of the first mature games. I mean, you actually had to play this at school, it's that serious. You have a family that you have to care for, who you had to name, which undoubtedly made you, as a kid, give your own family/friend names to your digital pioneers.
Then you had to see them drop off one by one, like flies, in one of the most humiliating ways possible: dysentery, or peeing fire out of your butt until you die of dehydration.
I never quite understood the whole dying from getting the runs. I mean, all I was eating was food that I had shot, squirrels and rabbits and such, it's not like the Oregon Trail was full of Mexican restaurants.

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SandroTheMaster - 1 year 27 days ago

How could you forget Alpha Centaury? At first glance it looks exactly like just "civilization in the future", and then you make a few researches, finishes a couple of Secret Projects, suddenly... you notice the game is hiding a much deeper purpose. Each Secret Project has extremely deep philosophical discussion allied with wildly symbolical cinematics.

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EmoMuffin - 1 year 27 days ago

@Urock- The thing avout Fallout is that the player makes the decisions, not the writers. So even though it is deep, Fallout is more like a piece of paper to write a sory on, rather than a novel to read through. The maturity essentialy depends on the player's own maturity.

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understudybass - 1 year 27 days ago

any game where you get 'used' could reasonably make this list (assassins creed and army of two come to mind) but i wouldn't say that they really are the essence of what Charlie is talking about. He hit the nail on the head when he put braid, which isn't even an M rated game, onto the list because of the subplots and the feeling of the game as a whole.

Really, really interesting article. more like it!

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