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How the hell was this ever controversial?!

We look back at gaming's most debatable decisions

Words: Dave Meikleham, GamesRadar UK
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HoraceQS  - 10 months 15 days ago 
"However, they simply aren't big enough to "kill" Sony, and their involvement will only perpetuate competition leading to an overall better experience for the end-user: you."

Sony is in bad shape right now, they will survive but will they continue to make their gaming division the priority it has been? Or will they compete with MS by adopting MS style strategies like "get it out fast and get it cheap quick" leading to RROD style mass hardware failures?

Microsoft hasn't beaten the PS3 with quality. Third parties made the XBox what it is today.
Slapdog  - 10 months 15 days ago 
Did you forget about the little first titles in the Halo series? How about Gears of War? Forza? I'm no fanboy, but I'd say it was a myriad of things that made the xbox what it is today, not just one. Same goes for everything else. As for Sony competing with MS by adopting MS's strategies: I've yet to see Sony adopt someone else's strategies to compete (the sixaxis doesn't count as that isn't a strategy, it's a last minute gimmick). This is what I'm talking about. Sony hasn't been beaten. Neither has Micrsoft or Nintendo. There's competition, and that's good.
Slapdog  - 10 months 15 days ago 
"first titles" = "first party titles"
Rzl  - 10 months 15 days ago 
I've been playing games since '84 and I've seen systems come and go. Microsoft isn't going to kill gaming. Sega and Nintendo blew atari out of business in the 80's and were basically running the console market. Sony then seemingly came out of left field with something new and kicked the door in on them in the 90's . Microsoft did it in like 2000. They all had good hardware, good marketing, and good timing in common to make them stand out. In a few years some new system gonna do the same thing. Love it or hate it it's the way it is
HoraceQS  - 10 months 14 days ago 
First of all, the XBox is not a good piece of hardware and it took a class action lawsuit to get Microsoft to recognize it and treat their customers with respect. Second, the game industry has never seen a company like Microsoft before.

They could strangle this industry like they have the computer operating system market. Are there other OSs out there? Sure. Are some of them good? Definitely. Do any of them have a prayer of breaking out of a niche market? Nope.

And what has Microsoft done with their huge market share? Stagnate, beat down the opposition with marketing and questionably legal tactics. Do you really think they will be different here?

Let's hope so, but I'm not holding my breath.
Rzl  - 10 months 14 days ago 
Well, it just seems to me Sony was stagnate and dropped the ball by thinking PS3s were just going to practically sell themselves on the strength of the name alone. It's good hardware but thats only gonna get you so far if you don't have the games and marketing to support it in my opinion. I have both systems, and for me there aren't too many games I'm willing to drop 60 bones on for PS3 that I don't already have on 360. It has alot of cool features but you wouldn't know it unless you get it.
HoraceQS  - 10 months 14 days ago 
"Well, it just seems to me Sony was stagnate and dropped the ball by thinking PS3s were just going to practically sell themselves on the strength of the name alone."

Unless you count all the new features like Blu-Ray and Wireless Integration out of the box a new archetecture and free online. Sony clearly tried to do new things with the PS3, I would actually make the argument that they overreached because those features made the console too expensive.


"It's good hardware but thats only gonna get you so far if you don't have the games and marketing to support it in my opinion."

And here it is, for everyone who says exclusives don't matter and that it's not a big deal when formerly exclusive franchises go multi-platform. Of course they matter.
Rzl  - 10 months 14 days ago 
Oh I absolutely think exclusive titles do matter, it was why you bought it in the first place back in the day. I'm not here to debate which system is better, or defend Xbox. I just think so far Xbox beat Sony to the punch. Things like a late launch date, price, and so so line up of games for said launch kinda didn't help it.
roguedvdrom  - 10 months 14 days ago 
Very informative. I agree with all of it except for the wii which i still cant stand although i;ll admit that it was a huge success for nintendo. (noooo, really?) but i friggin LOVED Wind Waker.
idunno  - 10 months 13 days ago 
"The PS3 had a slow start because it's innovative features added to the cost of the system"

What exactly about the PS3 was innovative?(Blu-ray doesn't count as a PS3 innovation.)
Everything this console generation, aside from the Wii's motion controls, were really just iterations of last gen's stuff.
HoraceQS  - 10 months 13 days ago 
"What exactly about the PS3 was innovative?(Blu-ray doesn't count as a PS3 innovation.)"

I already listed the things that PS3 did that no other console did before. Those new things may not have swayed you, but you can't just dismiss them. Did XBox even have integrated HDMI in the beginning?

"I just think so far Xbox beat Sony to the punch. "

Yeah, all I'm saying is that Microsoft is ultimately a destructive force in most areas where it gains a significant market share and that I doubt they will suddenly break the mold in the video game industry.
theguru  - 10 months 13 days ago 
"Well, 34 million Wii owners can’t be wrong" you say? I beg to differ. So anoying trying to play anything on it, I'd prefer to to have most of its gmaes on another console, or atleast for the remotes to have a bit of a bigger range!
TheElusiveMongoose  - 10 months 12 days ago 
Awesome article. All of these are so true, Wind Waker is one of my favorite Zeldas, The Killzone 2 target footage doesn't look impossible good, Obsessive preemptive fanboys are annoying as hell, nice points =P

Current Location: Riding out the Nuclear Apocolypse in a fridge with Harrison Ford
Slapdog  - 10 months 12 days ago 
Again HoraceQS, Microsoft can't destroy the gaming market, no matter how destructive they've been before. Also, "your words are empty and meaningless until you fill them with citations." Cite your sources. Example: "And what has Microsoft done with their huge market share? Stagnate, beat down the opposition with marketing and questionably legal tactics. Do you really think they will be different here?" source?

As far as OSs go, they got there early and they now have a larger install base. If they had tried to start up in the last 10 years things would be different. Yes, they play business hardball. So does Sony. Ever hear of the HD DVD? Case in point.
Slapdog  - 10 months 12 days ago 
Another citation might help here too: "Sony is in bad shape right now..." Really? Care to cite your source?
Spartan523  - 10 months 8 days ago 
Ok now horace what "innovative features" blu-ray? internal hard drive? Has there been a game that has taken good advantage of those? Does the PS3 have any good exclusives left? i dont mean killzone or resistance i said good exclusives. hows PS3's xbox live whoops i mean playstation online. how's play station home? You accuse microsoft of "They use their bottomless marketing dollars to attract attention to their low quality "ME TOO" version of a popular product and leverage a few whizbang features to build an audience." That basically describes playstation online. The motion controls (crap by the way) you accuse microsoft of a "ME TOO" attitude the PS3 reeks of one. Not only the PS3 though, name an industry that Sony isn't involved in. TV's, Speakers, MP3, go ahead try i doubt you will succeed.
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