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Have new announcements redeemed Nintendo?

Should we really be excited? We're not so sure.

Words: David Houghton, GamesRadar UK

[Update: Since this story was posted, Nintendo's Cammie Dunaway has stated that a new Pikmin is on the way in addition to the Wii port of the Gamecube original. No platform has been confirmed, but given the context of Miyamoto's E3 comments, we currently presume this new game will be coming to the Wii rather than the DS. We've also updated this feature with a fuller list of GC games being ported to the Wii.]

Okay, so Nintendo announced a lot of new stuff at it's press conference in Japan this morning, so we thought we should take a Radar-style look through it all and see what it all means. Has the company taken the opportunity to redeem itself after the crushing horror of E3? Well...

The first big news is the new DSi. Sporting larger screens, an even thinner profile and a camera on both the front and back of the unit, it's definitely a revised model of the existing DS rather than an entirely new handheld. But we're fine with that. We don't need a brand new DS yet, and a forced obsolescence would be pretty annoying given how much we're all still enjoying our current models.

What's really interesting about the new DS is the way Nintendo seems to be using it as a tool to integrate the "New Nintendo" branding beyond the Wii and across the entire range. There's a program called "Lifestyle Rhythm Calculator" built in - yes, we think that first word is pretty telling too, whatever the software turns out to be - which brings the Miis over to the DS.

Then there's the DSi's new SD card slot which is going to facilitate software downloads from a DS equivalent of the Wii Shop Channel, using the same points system for purchases. And yes, the new camera means there's going to be a DS Photo Channel too.

It looks like this means the shiny white new Ninty is here to stay then. Whether its move onto your handheld will be a welcome one or not remains to be seen.

As far as the Wii goes, it's a mixed old bag. Loads of 'new' games have been announced (reason for the inverted commas to come) and unsurprisingly they cover a whole load of audience demographics. The good news consists of a brilliant looking new Punchout!! (finally!), a sequel to Treasure's cracking N64 shooter Sin & Punishment (check it out on the Virtual Console now) and a sequel to the DS' under-rated point-and-click adventure Another Code.

Then there's a new Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, an Endless Ocean sequel, an interesting-looking space themed game called Cosmic Walker, and some weird but cool Japanese stuff we don't properly understand yet. Check out the full showreel and list of titles to see what else appeals.

The very bad news? Well, remember when Miyamoto mentioned in response to the E3 backlash that Nintendo was working on Pikmin for Wii? Well, Pikmin Wii is NOT Pikmin 3 as we all assumed. It's a port of the original Gamecube game with waggle controls attached. And it's the first part of a new line too, called "Enjoy With Wii". Oh good. Just what we need. Last-gen Wii ports becoming an official company policy. Thanks Nintendo.

So far, the list of ports consists of Pikmin, Pikmin 2, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Chibi-Robo, Mario Power Tennis, Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2. All strong games with logical applications for the Wii remote, but come on! Is this the great appeasement for hardcore gamers we've been hoping for? Last gen's hardcore games repackaged? At best it's lazy. At worst it's insulting, and a horrible indication of the way the new Nintendo might be going from now on. Ninty fans are used to having to appreciate any old bone thrown to them, but rarely has the bone been this old and already-chewed.

So an official overall Radar verdict of 'meh' then. The new DS is certainly interesting, and the prospect of downloadable games is a cool one - even if it may turn out to be a blatant attempt to stamp out the homebrew scene with an official alternative, especially given that the hacker-aiding GBA slot has now gone. And there are some potential stars in the new Wii software line-up.

But "Enjoy With Wii"? Good lord, that's a terrifying prospect. If Nintendo really thinks that recycling its old hardcore games for the Wii is all that its core audience needs, then it might be more out of touch than we ever feared. The concept takes the idea of the lazy token gesture to a whole new low, and right now sounds like the biggest slap in the face the hardcore have yet suffered.

02 Oct, 2008


Check out the screens for all the new games:

Wii

Punch-Out!!

Sin and Punishment 2

The Conduit

DS

Mario and Luigi 3

Rhythm Heaven

Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

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mortos  - 1 year 1 month ago 
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Squidmonk3j  - 1 year 1 month ago 
mortos if you got nothing interesting to say about the article then dont, your making a fool of yourself

hmmm...why would one want to play pikmin on wii if its the same game with a new controler ? :P
I think that the GC controls for pikmin was bad enough already :S but nice article
fionnoh  - 1 year 1 month ago 
i never did get around to playing pikmin on the gc, none of my local shops sold it, so it doesnt piss me off that much. but it would've been nicer to have an original wii one.

and i didnt buy the ds lite either, my ds fat was working just fine and i figured there would be a better one aroun the corner so i'll probably get the new one. just need the money first.
scammeleon  - 1 year 1 month ago 
The DSi does look pretty sweet, but does this mean the features available for the SD card won't ever be available on the DSlite? Hopefully there'll be an adapter somewhere down the line. But the GBA slot is in my mind a massive loss, and makes a lot of games features and even whole games (guitar hero) redundant...
I'm not quite as upset as you guys are about "enjoy with wii", sure its a bit cheesy of them. But all those games that never got the coverage they deserved last time (come on, wind waker's inevitable reappearance will be most welcome). And lets face it, they aren't going to take too much effort to (re)make, so shouldn't take too much time away from other development... Hopefully.
Da-Ku  - 1 year 1 month ago 
The New DS Is Suckish
Cybermaster  - 1 year 1 month ago 
I don't see what everyone's compalinig about. New DS: Amazing. New Punch Out!!: Epic. Another Code Sequal: Great. New Franchises: Just what Nintendo needs. Sin & Punishment 2? BEST NEWS I'VE HEARD ALL YEAR.

Even as a Nintendo fan, I do feel disaspointed with the "Enjoy With Wii" range, but the good outweighs the bad.
chrisat928  - 1 year 1 month ago 
Nothing I saw makes me regret selling my Wii.
lewis42025  - 1 year 1 month ago 
all those poor, poor nintendo fans. im sure glad im not one. man, "Enjoy With Wii"?!?! thats soooooooo bad. its kind of depressing. honestly, i see no reason to even dream about wanting a wii within the next year or more. i really believe that the ds will have better and more original games than the wii.
Hunter2458  - 1 year 1 month ago 
Well, I guess I'm glad I still have the original DS and haven't gotten the lite yet :3
Amnesiac  - 1 year 1 month ago 
On one hand, the new DS further encourages me to finally get one, but Pikmin Wii is a port of the original? WTF?! That's just insulting.
bioshocker  - 1 year 1 month ago 
There are no words for how much I want a new DS too bad it won't be hitting shores until "sometime into 2009"
sbghost64  - 1 year 1 month ago 
i'm losing faith in nintendo and the wii
Funebre  - 1 year 1 month ago 
It has been confirmed that the Wii port of Pikmin isn't the one they spoke of at E3. As put here http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=12412

About the DSi, it's very tempting to upgrade and pick on up but the lack of GBA port is off putting, although I don't play GBA games on it, the other peripherals will be rendered useless.
ELpork  - 1 year 1 month ago 
Meh in-deed.
lava_lamp  - 1 year 1 month ago 
when i heard of the new pikmin for the wii 1 or 2 months ago i got exicted and belived nintendo was still awesome. but now nintendo has turn into a fagfest,all i can do is remeber the good 'ol days. all of the other nintendo systems were brillent what happened with the wii?
bron1417  - 1 year 1 month ago 
im offended by nintendo thats all i have to say.
sourmoomoo95  - 1 year 1 month ago 
pikmin 3 was the last thing keeping me around nentendo sorry im packing up my fanboyism and moving to microsoft maybe halo wars will treat us better
Mega64  - 1 year 1 month ago 
So.....The DS Just copied PSP?
drprofessor  - 1 year 1 month ago 
My DS finally went the other day (it was a launch day original may it rest in peace)
So im glad to see i can just hold out for this newer nicer model. But the other news about the ports and what not is BS. The ONLY way I wouldnt mind them doing that is if we got the first Metroid Primes on wii with the great control displayed in Corruption.
BHT128  - 1 year 1 month ago 
You'll note that "Enjoy With Wii" abbreviated is EWW. Not to mention the official name is grammatically incorrect. They need to fire every decision making person in the company and begin anew.
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