E3 09: Mario Galaxy 2 sums up Nintendo's wrongs

How the great hardcore hope could be a terrible omen

Words: on June 3, 2009

What did you think of Nintendo’s E3 press conference then? The usual inane blandathon, drenched in the acrid juices of casual lifestyle aspiration? Thought so. But at least they gave us a look at the new Mario game. One of those can save any year’s line-up, right? Well no. On reflection we don’t think that’s the case any more.

In fact we feel that rather than the glowing beacon of inventive hardcore lovin’ we’ve come to expect, Super Mario Galaxy 2 actually crystalises everything the current Nintendo is doing wrong. It could even be a death knell. Stay with us on this one.

Above: Super Mario Galaxy 2. Or maybe the first one

The reason the core Mario series is so treasured by hardcore Nintendo fans - and trust us, a lifelong devotee is writing these words right now - is the sheer audacious inventiveness of every entry released so far. From Super Mario Bros. to Galaxy, Nintendo completely maintains the deep core of what makes Mario fun while expanding the wider experience each time. It’s incredibly knowing and clever game design.

But now we have Super Mario Galaxy 2, and for once a new Mario game looks like a clone of the one before it. And we’re massively disappointed. It might seem churlish to complain about a game being similar to one of the greatest ever made, but it’s the context and principle that matter here.

Above: No seriously, which one is it?

The core Mario series is the last bastion of the clever, witty, ingenious Nintendo we love, and to see its trademark surprises and reinvention seemingly lacking from a new sequel for first time (no, the re-addition of Yoshi doesn’t count) frankly scares the sh*t out of us.

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  • robbiejc85

    robbiejc85  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    EXACTLY. I'm glad someone finally said this.

    Nintendo's recent efforts - Wii Sports aside -have been so lacking in originality they border on the edge of incremental updates

    Wario - standard 2d platformer
    Punch Out - yeah it looks great but its near identical to the original and, ironically, ignores proper motion control
    Sin and Punishment - ANOTHER on-rails shooter!
    SMB2 Wii - fun but absolutely no effort even to make the graphics look better than the DS version
    Mario Galaxy 2 - brilliant I'm sure, but i've already got the first one and its got plenty of replay value.

    Nintendo seem to have forgotten that those HUGE, fantastic games are the ones that win out. All my non-gamer friends love Halo, Golden Eye 64, Street Fighter, even Perfect Dark 64. They love Wii sports not cos its motion-based, but because its fun. They're not hardcore gamers, they just like awesome games. As do I funnily enough.

    SEGA are doing their bit as are High Voltage and EA (mostly). The new Silent Hill looks ace aswell. Come on Nintendo.
  • RadarQJD

    RadarQJD  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    My only comment is.....: I didnt see any complaining about Gears of War 2, Halo 3,Fallout,Generic shooters,etc. Just because a game isn't a complete re-haul from it's prequal doesnt mean it's a "terrible omen" .
  • disturbedanomaly39

    disturbedanomaly39  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    oh gawd, its hard to stay sane during all this bullshit with ninty, and i was prepared for the worst from the press confrence

    ive been a hardcore ninty and mario fan since super mario world and still own all the non-spin off mario games and mario kart. i also own all the zelda games. wether david is right or not, i will still buy it

    at least miyamoto is trying to make hardcore games again. weve seen NSMBW and Metroid:other M so be thakfull for that
  • charley235

    charley235  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    anyone whos against a new mario galaxy is a fag. really, your all bitching about a game thts gonna be really fun, and nintendo will mix things up and add a buncha new levels. by the way, they are making a new kirby for wii, i forgot if its coming next year or this year
  • wiigamer024

    wiigamer024  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    hmm... it does kinda look the same, but hows the difficulty?
    OH WTF! if the first one was great, then, God damnit, i'm buyin the second one! wiether its good or bad!
    (COME ON! it's Nintendo for God's Sake!)
  • NadaNuff

    NadaNuff  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    Galaxy 2 is to Galaxy as Majora's Mask is to Ocarina of Time.
  • Mittenz

    Mittenz  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    About comparing Super Mario Galaxy 2 to Gears of War 2, the reason they were worried is because Mario games like that come out with wide time gaps always with new features, engines, and generally 1 per platform, they are simply stating that they are worried that Nintendo is intrested into making main Mario games into major cash cows. DO YOU WANT NINTENDO TO TAKE MARIO DOWN THE ACTIVISION PATH!?!?!?!
  • PS360Rulez

    PS360Rulez  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    Look this article may have been a little extreme but I do feel bad for Wii owners.

    You guys are excited about 2 good titles being announced?

    Wii: Metroid: M, Mario Galaxy 2. Here ill throw in Red Steel 2.

    360: Halo:Reach, Forza 3, Alan Wake,Crackdown 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell: Conviction and Project Natal.

    PS3: GOW 3, the last guardian, FFXIV, MGS 5, Uncharted 2, Agent, MAG, Mod Nation Racers, and a new Ratchet and Clank.

    PS360: Alpha Protocal, Assassains Creed 2, Battle Feild Bad Company 2, Brutal Legend, Crysis 2, Dantes Inferno, Dead Rising 2, DJ Hero, Just Cause 2, Metal Gear Solid: Rising, MODERN WARFARE 2, Red Dead Redemption and The Sabateur.

    Suddenly Looks like harcore nintendo fans got fucked doesnt it. Hope those three games can hold you through out the year.
  • Ezekiel17

    Ezekiel17  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    I'm dissapointed with Nintendo. Showing off a new Super Mario Galaxy when the 1st came out just 2 years ago? Oh, and a co-op rehash if New Super mario Bros? *shakes head and sighs*
    Atleast that new Metroid game looks cool, to bad it doesn't come out till 2010. :P
  • Squander

    Squander  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    that article expresses exactly what I feel - Nintendo seems to be burned out by its own success...
  • adielo12

    adielo12  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    well come on, what do we expect, it's a sequel. It's obviously gonna look the same but I bet there are alot of new features and a different storyline. This game hasn't even come out yet so we don't know all about it yet.
  • pimlicosound

    pimlicosound  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    I don't understand the comparison to the iPod. Most people who buy iPods go on to buy other iPods and other Apple hardware. Apple fans are notoriously brand-loyal.

    Furthermore, the iPod is synonymous with portable MP3 players, whereas the Wii is not synonymous with gaming.
  • solidocelot

    solidocelot  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    how is it living and not liking anything?
  • Vagrant

    Vagrant  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    This seems a perfectly reasonable and accurate article. Can't really argue with it.
  • MGS4SolidSnake

    MGS4SolidSnake  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    if anybody wanted to be a hardcore gamer with hardcore games y would they buy the wii...the wii is for little kids, families, and stupid people who are so obsessed with super smash bros. that they waste money just to play one game...nobody get pissed cause u know its true
  • Soadogsownz

    Soadogsownz  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    @AssBurgers

    Tell me one way shovelware being on a system changes the quality of the good games? Judge a console on it's amount of good games not what percentage of its games are good that actually makes no sense at all.

    Do you hate the PC too? Ridiculous.
  • TrollSlayer

    TrollSlayer  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    Wow this arctile is the most conjecture filed, contrived and biased diatribe of baseless bullcrap I have ever read. It's pretty low how some have sunk just to twist things, put a practically baseless spin on things just to bash Nintendo. This irrational and contrived b.s. is amazing laughable. I'd expect this crap from Anti-Nintedo Trolls but from a "professional" game news site is just really sad.
  • tobo

    tobo  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    this game will be a ton of fun and only a major jack a** will avoid it. it's the first sequel since the nes right? Im 32 yrs old and have owned every nintendo system . this game will be worth the 50 bucks
  • noblehouse

    noblehouse  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    The problem with Gamesradar is that its a hardcore gamers site. Nintendo have moved away from constantly competing for the best graphics and most realism. GET OVER IT ALREADY!
    With the superb graphics and realism available on 360 and PS3 why keep berating Nintendo about their change of direction?
  • Genericide

    Genericide  - 2 years, 8 months ago  - Report

    Maybe I'm the minority here, but I could care less if Nintendo released several mario games using the same engine, so long as they switched with each new console. There have always been complaints that Nintendo relies to much on re-releasing the same games, but other companies just release some really similar games that aren't near the same quality, and just because different shooters, racers, ect. on other consoles have different names doesn't mean they aren't incredibly similar. The point is that although I completely agree with the resistance to Nintendo's current direction, I'll take similar mario sequels over Imagine Party Babyz any day.
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